Finally A Bit Of Recording Time!

Post by **olly** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 5:24 pm

I have just spent the last couple of hours chucking together this little tune in Cubase.

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Of course it is totally unfinished though I doubt I will work on it again though I do like the riff - the lead is a bit naff but hey ho!

Let me know what you think!

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:04 pm

Nice one ...well worth pursuing

rock on

i-watermelon john · Post by **i-watermelon john** » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:20 pm

Are you playing drums on this
Gosh Olly, this is really some nice playing
Really liked listening to it

Kind of sounds like a Marshall amp I'm hearing

bigiain · Post by **bigiain** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:42 am

nice one olly can tell your a satch fan

Post by **olly** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:26 am

Cheers guys.

I am using ezdrummer for the drums John. You should check it out as it's easy to use and doesn't sound too bad!

Edit: -I did actually record this through my Marshall so correct John!

alun · Post by **alun** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:26 pm

Olly wrote:Let me know what you think!

I've listened to this a few times and all I can say is I think its

Post by **olly** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:25 pm

Hi Alun - good to see you back. Very kind of you!

Hopefully the first step in getting further with writing!

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:42 pm

Yer it nice olly.

Instructor · Post by **Instructor** » Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:03 pm

Olly,

I second the others where you can hear your Satch influences. What I like and this isnt something that I hear often, is that your playing explores melody, something that I think is very much a staple of Joe's songs, and that I am a fan of. Give me a melody over flash and 9 times out of 10 I'll appreciate the song more. The riff is pure 80's metal blues based, ala Tesla or Great White.

Why don't you go into how you are coming up with the melody? What's happened first with this song? Did you come up with the riff first and then "hear" the melody in your head?

Instructor

Post by **olly** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:39 pm

Instructor wrote:What I like and this isnt something that I hear often, is that your playing explores melody, something that I think is very much a staple of Joe's songs, and that I am a fan of

I like the same. He comes up with some really great melodies. Melodies that you can hum along to and this really appeals to me.

I have seen him a few times live now and one time he went on a 20 minute tangent in the song "Searching" and I lost interest. It either has to be something melodic or something particularly difficult to play to really make me enjoy it. Random shredding just doesn't do it for me.

Instructor wrote:Why don't you go into how you are coming up with the melody? What's happened first with this song? Did you come up with the riff first and then "hear" the melody in your head?

Basically I had a couple of hours of time and I had set up my Marshall for the first time in ages. I thought I would try micing it and see how it recorded. Then I just played the riff and thought I would try and expand on it a little.

As you may have read before, I am quite new to recording and never really written anything so once I had the riff I was need to see what I could do with Cubase regarding adding some bass in there and messing with the drums a little. By the time it came to the lead I was pretty much out of time so I just improved over it hence the couple of timing issues.

I have tried before to analyse exactly how I improvise. I don't hear it in my head that is for sure. I think I am so pattern oriented that I can play over the fretboard pretty easy but also I have subconscious knowledge of some notes that sound good - it's a little hard to explain.

As I mentioned above I am not a great fan of random shredding so what I would like to do next time is to actually work out a melody rather than just improv it and then expand on that melodic idea.

I have some time off of work over Christmas so I expect that I will manage to get a little time to get some more playing/recording done in between family stuff!

Thanks for listening - appreciate it.

Instructor · Post by **Instructor** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:26 pm

Since you are new to recording, why don't you start a topic where you share what you've learned, and such as to how to get a basic recording setup up and going? Sort of a "looking over your shoulder" approach, to what has worked well for you so far.

Instructor

don p · Post by **don p** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:31 pm

Sounded pretty good there Olly! I have a habit of going a little crazy with the licks. I need to bring more melody back into my playing. I have to get my butt going and get back into recording again. I barley pick up the guitar anymore besides teaching my students. Getting bogged down with the business side of things.

By the way I also have Ez drummer. I love that program!

Post by **olly** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:48 pm

Instructor wrote:why don't you start a topic where you share what you've learned,

Yep may well do this when time permits.

don p wrote:By the way I also have Ez drummer. I love that program!

Yes it really is easy to use I don't think the sounds are too bad as well.

Instructor · Post by **Instructor** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:39 pm

How does EZ drummer work, is it a stand alone, or a plugin?

don p · Post by **don p** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:07 am

You can set it up both ways. I have it set up in my sonar recording program. It's great! You just jam and run through the drum patterns trying them out and when you hear one that fits well you just grab it and drop it strait into the midi track in your recording program.

I usually set up a general drum track and go back in and add in the cymbals manually. Alot easier then my old Alesis sr 16 drum machine!

Post by **olly** » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:46 pm

don p wrote:I usually set up a general drum track and go back in and add in the cymbals manually. Alot easier then my old Alesis sr 16 drum machine!

Nice idea here.

I have just been starting with a single groove then going back to drop in fills etc. I like your idea though.

bigiain · Post by **bigiain** » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:23 pm

nice one olly

Zelig · Post by **Zelig** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:18 am

Hi Olly
Sounds great!
The riff is very good, but what kills me is the first melody right after the riff. It sounds cooler. The playing of the riff could be a bit more bluesy and laidback with a kind of Billy Gibbons feeling. But that’s a detail because it sounds awesome the way it is.