technique

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:00 pm

how important is it the learn the guitar ' properly ' would you encourage a student
to play positionally or use his fingers willy nilly ie 'f*** the pinky i can reach with this finger '
imo this attitude stinks and any teacher endorsing this should be struck off

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:08 pm

Is there really a properly......Or is it whats best for you??????

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:51 pm

in my opinion there is a ' properly '...there is always a proper way to do anything
any guitarist thats had lessons from a quality teacher with always use his pinky
especially if its from the word go..most self taught guitarist dont use their pinky
cause its ten times easier using their 3rd..so the bad habit develops
...you wont type 500 words a minute on a typewriter using 2 fingers ( old adage )

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:22 pm

OK but I am self tought and use my pinky,,,not much and if Idon't have to I won't.

Its the demon finger

Post by **olly** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:25 am

I think proper technique is really important.

I made the pinky mistake way back and it took years trying to correct when I realised I really did need it!

There are loads of other bad habits that are easy to get trapped into - a guitar teacher should identify these and encourage good technique from the start!

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:44 pm

simple exercise..put your first finger at the 5th position on the E string ( A )..then play
A C B A# continuously as fast as you can without your pinky..then with your pinky ( keep your first finger on the 5th fret )
then do the same again but playing C# instead of C

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:58 pm

jamesd74 wrote:OK but I am self tought and use my pinky,,,not much and if Idon't have to I won't

what does 'if i dont have to' mean??

is it deformed/broken/an embarrassment/ a funny colour/ or what????
your pinky is part of the team....dont be so cruel...get it involved..you know it makes sense
and you'll never regret it...if you can play fantastic without it...the you'd be a f***
megaunbelievable using it

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:08 pm

I don't play F with the pinky I play F in the C shape but up one.... I can't get the pinky out of bar chords but would if I could....

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:17 pm

i dont quite understand your last post ie. the fingering etc
any chance of a rephrase

Post by **olly** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:01 am

James - you just have to train it. It takes a while but you can do it and it is definitely worth while. Just walk up the fretboard using each finger including your pinky. It will soon build up strength and become usable

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:06 pm

I do try to practice with it.....it just a pain

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:18 pm

as olly says...labour..pain...joy

then after the kids...........

jamesd74 wrote:I do try to practice with it.

keep it up...grit your teeth......in a few weeks time you will be pinky perfect
and never look back

prove to the newbees its the only way to play whatever your inspirations
your little finger is much bigger than you realise???????

(it can make your left hand 2" longer for starters)

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:51 pm

waffle waffle................grab an orange with your left hand...without you pinky....
if you can do that naturally then you dont need your little finger to play guitar

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:39 pm

YER gonna give the orange a try

watermelon john · Post by **watermelon john** » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:29 am

Having an instructor who plays properly helps out a lot. But the instructor needs to show and explain why this is the proper way to play it. All makes sense to a new comer over time.

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:08 pm

OH NO THE PINKY THREAD

IS BACK

Post by **olly** » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:26 am

James - train your pinky - you need it more than you think!

watermelon john · Post by **watermelon john** » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:52 pm

Does James have a pinky

Maybe just on the right hand

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:57 pm

Yer I have a Pinky THE DEMON FINGER...

OrenJellow · Post by **OrenJellow** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:19 am

I have trained myself not to use the pinky and just go on with the other fingers and the strumming, but I guess that’s also another way in playing the guitar in a professional level. I could never have the patience to change my strumming method after all these years.

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:28 am

Welcome to the club of "NO to the Pinky" Oren Jellow

And welcome to the forum

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:21 pm

hi and welcome oren..as far as strumming is concerned i shoudn't think your pinky
would be an issue..??

chainsawguitar · Post by **chainsawguitar** » Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:55 am

jamesd74 wrote:Is there really a properly......Or is it whats best for you??????

Yes! Definitely! There is a proper way to do anything!

If I'm teaching a young child with smaller hands, I sometimes allow them to use different fingers- but I don't avoid the pinky finger. For example: if they find it difficult to stretch from the 2nd to the 4th fret, I will get them to do it with their 1st and 4th fingers if the 1st and 3rd is too much of a stretch.

Sometimes it's much more important to get them interested and playing at all. If they play while avoiding the pinky, then I'll definitely pick them up on it!

jamesd74 · Post by **jamesd74** » Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:43 pm

Doh there was I happy in my own world of my style of playing......But I do still think there is a case for what fits your playing style best, makes you a more comfortable and better player.....

polyal · Post by **polyal** » Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:10 pm

the only excuse for not using your pinky would be " I aven't got one "