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(13 replies, posted in Music Theory)

Olly wrote:
Instructor wrote:

Heres another diatonic Modal:

C / Em9 / D/F# / Am6 / Cmaj7#11 - C Lydian

So basically here each note has the #4 of the C Lydian (apart from the C) so in effect there is still a drone kind of going on just maybe in the upper extensions.

So I'm now thinking why is it that when playing in major or minor you can pretty much use all available chords without ensuring the root appears in each individual chords and it will always sound like major or minor - why is this? Is it that major and minor (Ionian and aeolian) are stronger modes that the others? Or does it all boil down to the strong pull or cadence between the V - I chord?

I think the answer is opinion driven, but in my opinion, music thats based out of the Western Hemisphere is engrained in our ears and cultures that the "Pitch collections" and intervals within those pitch collections, are very familiar to us.  Also consider that what makes a scale a scale is the incidence of half steps within the scale.  For example a Major/Ionian is 3-4 and 7-8 while Minor, they are between 2-3 and 5-6, so since these are different they are different types of scales.  But since they are also the predominant "music" that our ears have been conditioned to recognize, then you may have less of a need to "sell" these modes, 99 percent of the time.

Imagine if you grew up listening to nothing but Giant Steps by Coltrane, the key changes and melodic unions would have you perceiving other music differently, and it might even sound "bad" to your ears, even the simplest of melodies.

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(6 replies, posted in How to Start)

Don!  Great to see you, makes sense now.  So YOU were the link that I saw on MY site that led me HERE to discover this interesting guitar forum, and now, you're also enrolled as one of MY Academy Guitar students!  How cool is that!

No wonder I thought you made great points in the post above!

I see you're making your way to lesson 4 when I last looked, hope it's been a benefit.  I have been posting in some of these theory sections, and you're welcome to jump right in.

By the way, I completely agree with your take on sightreading.  Industry figures show that among 100 people that pick up a book 1, 13 percent make it to the next book in the series.  That's a 13% success rate.  Not acceptable for me.

In my experience, what I find is that, say those getting to graduate the Academy, they become "addicted to the rush" of having learned so much about the guitar that for many it becomes a natural "next step" to complete their knowledge, by getting into sight reading.  I use one resource that I will live and die by, and in my opinion the best for learning to sight read as a guitarist, and thats "Music Reading for Guitar" by David Oakes, on Musicians Institute Press.  Essentially what you have is Semester 1-2 of MI's Sight reading cirricula in book form for under 20.00, and it's perfect for those who need to learn lead sheets for session work, or jazz ensemble.  By far the most intelligent work (Sorry, William  Leavitt) on sightreading on the guitar, IMO.

Instructor (Sean)  Cats out of the bag now!

For a beginner,  Em, and then this one 2x0200 so, a D 6/9.  You can certainly extend harmonization to the chords you just named, but for beginners and strummers alike this is a great first song.

I always play a clip on YouTube for those who have never heard the song, so they can get a sense of it.

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(9 replies, posted in Bands)

Olly wrote:

Just finished reading Steven Adler's book "My appetite for destruction".

He was the original drummer for Guns N Roses before he got kind of pushed out the band for being way to messed up on drugs.

I have also read Slash's book and this rock and roll lifestyle they led sounds crazy. A lot of fun, but crazy!

Yeah I have read The Dirt by Motley Crue and also Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx...strange lives indeed.

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(3 replies, posted in How to Start)

The thing with the group is you have to teach to the lowest person in the room for them to follow.  This means that the person who's got it and is ready for more...is going to be shuffling their feet and waiting to move ahead.

Not to mention you have audience management and many different personality types to navigate through all at once.  How many will be bored?  How many will feel this is stupid, or how many will be thinking about the xBox game they had played all night? 

If your goal is to teach then, these are things not on paper that you will eventually have to address to run a sustainable program.

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231

(5 replies, posted in Your Recordings)

Try a capo at the 2nd fret and these chords.

A,  E,  F#m,

or else barre the first 3 notes of the 2nd fret strings 1,2 and 3

and D.

And try to get a little "bounce" to the strum like so... " a one and.......a two and........a 3 and........a 4 and........" 

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232

(13 replies, posted in Music Theory)

Olly wrote:

Yes I am relatively familiar with secondary dominants though I struggle to fit them into anything I am composing without them breaking the flow of the music!

Another way I know that maintains the sound of the mode is to maintain the root note of the mode within the bass. This does work well however rather than expanding musical possibilities it seems to actual restrict them!


Thats true, I call that Dronal Modal.

I think what you want to do there is experiment with each tone of the mode to see how it feels against that progression, to get a sense of it.  There are some cool ideas, but it's almost how you might view Indian and Raga music.  What I mean is that its typically a bunch of scales played over a constant drone and the melody is harmonically bound by that central drone tone, and thuse differences are percieved in as far as how it relates back to the "drone"

In an instance of Diatonic Modal you'll either play over a one chord static vamp or a set of chords using a mode that contains the complete harmonic structure of the static chord, or all the chords within it.

With this idea its best to completely understand how to build chords within a mode and also how to relate chords back to modes. This will help as a basis to build on:
Here's some examples. 

maj traid = found in Ionian, Lydian, Mixolydian
maj7 = found in Ionian, Lydian
maj7#11 = found in Lydian
maj13 = found in Ionian
dom7 = found in Mixolydian
dom13 = found in Mixolydian
min traid = found in Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian
m7 = found in Dorian, Phrygian, Aeolian
mb5 triad = found in Locrian
m7b5 = found in Locrian
susb9 = found in Phrygian

So lets say for arguments sake, we start at a triadic approach on a C Lydian Scale.

C D E F# G A B C

So of course you start on C as it's the Tonic, and sets tonality for the mode, right?

C - whats the next one that uses F# in the chord?  D major,  Then you have an F#dim (not the most musical of choices but its there at the Triad level)  And finally you have Bm.

All of these use the #4, at the triad level.  So you have C D F#o and Bm in C Lydian.

At the 4 part harmony level you have more options

Gmaj7, Though use of the G is going to want to pull this all to G, so use at your own risk of losing melody, because a D is the 5 of G.  Emin9 is a good one, where the modal note is the 9. 

Heres another diatonic Modal:

C / Em9 / D/F# / Am6 / Cmaj7#11 - C Lydian

And so on. 

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Horse with No Name - 2 chords.

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(14 replies, posted in Guitar Players)

Tommy Emmanuel

I met Andy, he's a great dude, and would be one of my top picks.  But for my money TE is the best living guitar player.

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I dont know what you want to do, maybe give me an idea of 3 goals you have for the next 6 months, that you'd like to accomplish.

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(15 replies, posted in Guitars)

mikeyBoab wrote:

I saw a '64 Telecaster for sale in a shop yesterday for £2000 (about 3500 australian bucks).

Would anyone consider paying that kind of money for it? Not that I'm in cahoots with the shop owner, I'm just trying to fathom why someone would want to pay that kind of money for a second-hand guitar. What makes them so special?

Not for anything that said Fender on it.

For every dime I could put into a Fender, I could buy a guitar that from the ground up slays every aspect of a Fender, like a G&L ASAT, or a Bluesboy, or....

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237

(19 replies, posted in Guitars)

MY best suggestion is don't buy a Fender.  Get a Seymour Duncan Antiquity set in that, a nice well made Maple neck, and some Goteh or Grover Tuners, and you'll be in heaven.

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(7 replies, posted in Guitars)

I have over 20 guitars.  My go-to guitar these days and my favorite is my Reverend Sensei in Flame Maple, and I also have a Flatroc and a 10th Anniversary Jetstream.  On the acoustic side, my Breedloves (note that is plural) are all I'll ever want or need in the acoustic, though one day I might go for a Taylor T5.

I love also, my G&L's and my DiPintos, and I do have a few ESP's.  But since Im not as metal centric as I once was they see little playing time.

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239

(3 replies, posted in Guitars)

SIT and nothing else.  I like the Rock N Roll series.  Love the tone.  Everything else is unremarkable for me, and Ive played so many.

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240

(7 replies, posted in Guitars)

kaoticnick wrote:

If you search guitars on ebay (particularly electric) you'll find lots of cheap tempting offers lower than $100. The bad news is they all seem to be shipping from China or Hong Kong or some other Asian country. It's not that Im racist but I have this feeling I'll end up with a piece of junk...can anyone share experience with these cheap ebay guitars?

Its very likely that you'll end up with junk.

The chances that you won't are very slim, but check feedback, because while you might be paying 100.00 you also are many times paying high shipping costs, so the offset is, a 100 guitar cost you 250.00, and that's before you learn if you got burned.  Keep in mind, its only a deal if it exceeds what a domestic product does at that price.  Lets put it this way, the day they start selling Edwards guitar's here on eBay for 200, I'm going to grab them by the truck load, because their quality and reputation is amazing, and this would be considered as crazy a deal as youre gonna find.  Theres a reason that even shipped overseas they command and recieve 800.00 and up for them.

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(20 replies, posted in Guitars)

The way I turn a guitar turns heads.  I havent seen anyone else do it.  I'll use  the following to illustrate.

<> - Natural Harmonic (i.e. <> 6,12 means play the Natural Harmonic  at 6th string 12th fret)
X,Y where X is string and Y is the fret (i.e.  2,1 means 2nd string, 1st fret)
--->  means "compare pitch to, and tune that string to match the <>".

Here we go!

<>6,12 --->  5,7
<>6,12 ---> 4,2
<>5,12 ---> 4,7
<>5,12 ---> 3,2
<>4,12 ---> 3,7
<>4,12 ---> 2,3
<>3,12 ---> 2,8
<>3,12 ---> 1,3
<>2,12 ---> 1,7

This puts it in very close temperament tuning with itself, especially if your reasonably sure your E is good.

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(14 replies, posted in Guitars)

Have a look at G&L ASAT as well, if you're craving a Tele....The ASAT's little heralded, but, puts most Tele's to shame.  While you're at it, note whose company it is...

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As a singer songwriter, I am very aware that I lack the ability to be objective with my music.  Since I write for others to hear, it's only from their feedback that I know what works or is "good" to them, and many times it doesn't match what I thought.  I find though, that I try to write from a sincere point for a reason, and when I connect with that, while I may like it, it may speak more to me than anyone else.

The important thing is to write and dont evaluate it except from a point of "does it speak to me", and if it doesn't or I just get stuck, then I walk away and come back later listening with "new" ears.

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(3 replies, posted in Songwriting on Guitar)

The dim chord is a rarely used chord in songwriting for example.

Harmony is more than knowing what diatonic chords to use, and knowing those isn't necessarily "harmony".   Also important is the understanding of a chord's function to the scale it came out of, and cadences.  Theres lots of ways of harmonizing lines, 3rds, 4ths (sus) and 5ths.  For others 3rds and 7ths are used.  In country, 6ths are common.  Even more than that is the study of counterpoint, where you learn the rules and motions of intervals, steps and directions across a melody line, and then learn how to free counterpoint.

Any of these can serve as melodic aspects.

By the way, instead of the dim, for most intents and purposes, its better to use a bVII.

Take Freebird for example.

If it were diatonic the song would have been ruined.


G - D/F# - Em  - F#7b5 - C  and D.  This would be diatonic, and sound terrible.  There would be no Freebird.

G D/F# Em  *F* C and D sound great because the quirky dim (m7b5) is removed and the much more pleasant F (bVII) is introduced, which gives it the flavor.

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(19 replies, posted in Songwriting on Guitar)

I don't think you can write a song, except by writing songs.  Let me explain.

I can write letters.  But unless I have an idea, I cannot write a story.  I can sit here and think of many ways to write a story, but unless Im inspired and *I* feel it, chances are, I'm not going to make an interesting story.  After all, if it doesn't move me, why would it move you?

The best way to do anything is to start doing it, and hone your craft through what you learn as you go.  Although I have a mastery of the guitar in many respects, I do not write a song, unless it "happens" to me, because thats when its at its most authentic.  The best way to do that is to put yourself in a mode where you are receptive to inspiration.  That inspiration could be a riff you just got, a 2 chord idea youve never played or heard the same way that you are now hearing it etc.  The best tool for those who have opened themselves up for being inspired is the portable recorder.  Carry it around with you so that on a moments notice you can capture the moment before its gone.  For me that is my iPhone.  It has a recording function, and Ill take an idea and record it and leave it for a while and see what comes of it.  Sometimes it flows, and sometimes it still needs time to cook, and I wont rush it.  Id rather not use it than use it in a way that turns out to feel canned contrived and so-so.

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(7 replies, posted in Favorite Guitar Sites)

I hope this is appropriate to post this.

I run a Guitar School here in South Texas, and we specialize in the teaching of music theory, and mastery of the guitar.

I'd be happy to answer any questions that I can.  The site is currently in the middle of an upgrade, but you are free to have a look at the way it is now.  The upgrade should be done, sometime over the next 2 weeks.

If we can answer any questions let us know.  You can read about our beginnings, our successes, our students, and the press that we've recieved from all over.

http://rnbacademy.com

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(38 replies, posted in Guitars)

I'd suggest an LTD ESP.

An M 50 for example would be nice, if you take it to a local shop for setup and to check intonation, afterwards.  They tend to be solid guitars for the money, from the ground up.  Add a Line 6 Spider IV 15, and you have a great beginners rig.

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(8 replies, posted in Resources)

wipeitaway wrote:

yes, check out my lessons and let me know what you think

http://guitarmanual.typepad.com/blog/

I think your method tries too hard to do all things.  It fails in my opinion in considering the time that it takes, and is no better than anything else out there.  In my opinion, you write a book or do something, because you "do it better" and you have something "different" to offer.

In my opinion, your method is flawed on a number of counts.  One, for the beginner it does what many books have done and in my opinion, incorrectly, or in a way that has had a detrimental effect on the student.

The number one priority of the teacher when starting out with a student on the guitar should be, in my opinion, (and I have taught well over 500 students in the last 7-8 years, not including the hundreds of online students I now teach and mentor around the world) should be to get them to fall in love with the guitar, and keep playing it.  Experience has taught me that this can only be done with little victories.  They need a payoff quickly or they can get bored, discouraged, feel that theres more work, pain and too little payoff.  Books fail to recognize that learning the guitar has a steep learning curve, and so they jam what they think is teaching, into their methods, when it's little more than "information".  I do believe your efforts are sincere, and it's clear that you've taken the time to try and do a good job.  I just think that we start off at the wrong place.

I'll give you an example.  Take chords, for example.  The chords that you introduce and many do, are 3 finger chords. 

Well, if they don't know about fret placement, intonation, blocking of strings and fingers, and such they may become very frustrated.  However if your first chord, is say, a D sus2, and then you follow that with a G6 and then an Em, and a Cadd9, and an Am7 etc, you quickly help that student isolate their fingers to only 2, that are giving him problems. 

Also, you can teach transitions quite easily, and just as important to learning how to play a chord, is how to change it to another chord that will likely connect to it, ala D to G.  Since D sus 2 and G6 are 2 fingered variants of these chords, it allows them to get their 2 most important core fingers set and strengthened over a short time, where when they add that 3rd finger later, they have the first two solid like tree trunks.  Plus they are already in the habit of transitioning.

This also means that early on you can teach them songs using two finger chords, and give them practice transitioning.

For example, Sweet Child of Mine uses D sus2 Cadd9 and G6, and is quite recognizable to the beginner, while not the exact chords.  Cant you see is a Dsus2 - D/C and G, but it can be made into a  D sus2 Cadd9 and G6 very easily.  Brown eyed girl can be played with all 4 chords, G6 Cadd9 Dsus2 and Em, all 2 finger chords.

Thus, when friends and family ask the student to play a song, they can do so, and at the same time they are strengthening their finger placement, sense of rhythm, transitioning, and progressing faster.  One of the fatal flaws about the traditional method of learning guitar is the enormous failure rate.  I belong to NAMM and the industry stats are, for every 100 that begin a music book, 87 of them never make it to the end.  That's a 13% chance of success.  Sure some, will make it, but if the idea is to teach as many people as possible and reach them with the message, then we have to do more than convey information, we have to teach from their shoes, in ways that are relevant to the student, and which acknowledge the need for buy-in and small victories for the student as they learn.

Otherwise, we are just fooling ourselves that we are making a difference. 

Just so that people understand, that I am speaking from experience and this works, I do this every day all day.  My record of success among online students to date is 100 percent, which means that of all the students that have ever enrolled, 100 percent of them have stayed and are currently active. Our level of withdrawal from the Guitar Academy in person is less than 2 a year, out of over 100 enrolled, usually due to moves, grades, or graduation.

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(8 replies, posted in Resources)

It depends on what you want to learn.

For many things, I would say that if you are learning to learn basics like songs, strumming etc, its really easy.  For other things, like theory, mastery of the guitar, it's harder.  You'd either need a site that teaches it, or get a private instructor that not only understands it themselves, but can teach it.

In many cases, the information is the same, but what differs is the approach.  Theres a great difference between knowing it, and being able to break it down so that the student can learn it from where they are.  Many sites, think that simply writing something is "teaching", it isnt, thats passive and redundant.  Teaching is putting yourself in the students shoes and teaching from their perspective, and not your own.  Good teaching takes what someone knows, and applies it to something they dont yet know, and shows the bridge, and the best teaching can take what was a seemingly complicated idea, and makes it simple, to the point that it's almost too easy.  The vast majority of places don't do that, and this is where it falls short and students are left on their own.

Merely conveying information is not "teaching".  Teaching is a personal, involved process, not a "lesson dump", and those are few and far between, however, that's our online approach, so I know that they are out there.  I have also seen this approach on JamPlay, though I am not affiliated with them, it's only relevant to the beginner level, as far as their quality of instructor.  Another great example of this would be Justin Sandercoe, though again, I would say his depth is more towards the basics than the advanced, like ours is.

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250

(6 replies, posted in How to Start)

deathnote wrote:

Well i say the fastest way to start playing is learning how to read tabs because tabs are fun and easy to understand. but please i say do a lot of finger tip push ups because playing th guitar is not as easy as it looks.
Practice every day and you will be able to play up to an hour in a week or two.

When you say "playing" what do you mean exactly?  Do you mean the physical act of strumming strings?  Because you can do that instantly to a detuned guitar.  That may not sound great but it is playing.

You might want to define what you consider "playing", as I would not agree with your example, for a number of reasons, but the main one is that tabs teach you to parrot what someone else does, but it doesn't "teach" you the guitar, in terms of taking you beyond playing others songs.  I could count on both hands the number of students who discount the songs they know on guitar and still say they feel they haven't "learned" anything.

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