726

(4 replies, posted in Introduce yourself)

Hi and welcome to the forum. I have no experience in playing classical guitar but I love to listen to it.


What is your favourite piece of music and I will have a listen?

Yep he is a true genius and Freddie was certainly a legend that will live on in his music forever!

Here it is - courtesy of http://www.brianmay.com

**Mon 02 Aug 04**
THE PITCH OF NO ONE BUT YOU

Ah ! The strange key of No-One but You ! - an interesting question indeed.

There are MANY reasons why a recording might not be at "concert pitch". I won't go into them all here and now. But "No-One but You" is a special case. I originally recorded it as a solo track, and it was Roger who paid me the compliment of wanting to bring it under the Queen umbrella. Of course I couldn't refuse, because the subject matter was very much Queen relevant, and the track would reach Queen fans much more effectively if it appeared under "Queen" rather than "Brian May".

But of course as soon as you throw a song into a group arena, you no longer have full control. Queen was always a democracy, and songs were always pulled to pieces in the process of becoming Queen tracks. Almost always they benefited. My solo version of NOBY was more or less complete as regards keys, guitars, and vocals, but I had already asked Roger if he would play drums, as the piece was really "Taylor-Made" (sorry!) for him. Roger felt strongly that my tempo was too slow, and convinced me to try changing the tempo. I was happy with my vocal, but of course changing the speed of my track also changed the pitch. We decided against using the "stretching" technology to return the track to original pitch, since so much quality would have been lost (the machines are better now). So, unless I wanted to start all over again with my vocal, which I felt had that "First Thought" vibe, I was stuck with it being slightly raised in pitch. I got Roger to sing the middle verse so it would become more a Queen thing, using my track as the demo in this case .... I enjoyed 'producing' his vocal, pushing him to try things ... and Roger played superb drums - he has the ability to make you feel every hit is for a reason, a rare quality. So the track evolved into what you hear on "Queen Rocks". I mixed it, and actually contemplated returning it to the original pitch, but Roger was so convinced it would stop Radio playing the track, I gave in. That's one decision I've always regretted, (Radio pretty much never played it anyway!) but it's water under bridge....

So there it sits, about half way between A440 and the next semitone up! It annoys me greatly ! But for We Will Rock You I did a new arrangement, (to be sung by a girl, rather than us) which starts in a higher key and modulates to an even higher one for the last verse. The original song has a couple of interesting features, if you're interested! The mood is intended to be very much Ketty Lester's fabulous old hit "Love Letters in the Sand". The whole vibe of that song has always haunted me, and for this occasion it related directly to how I felt about Freddie. So the time signature is 6/8, which is also reminiscent of "We are the Champions". I had all this in mind writing the song, which I wanted to be a tribute to Freddie. One of the great innovations of "Champions", one of Freddie's little masterstrokes, is that when the song moves from Verse to Chorus, it modulates effortlessly and without apology up two keys. It would be hard to find another song written before that time which did this. Freddie had a fabulous ability to move songs around related keys, which still astounds me. Anyway, as part of the tribute, I decided that "No-One But You would do the same. So when you hear this song in our show, in London, Brisbane, Barcelona, Las Vegas, Moscow, or Cologne, the girl you see singing it moves between 3 different keys, and a span of 6 semitones in addition to the range of the melody. It's quite a demanding sing. Of course our wonderful Kerry Ellis set the standard as "Meat" in the original Dominion cast, which you can hear on the London cast album. She set a very high bench mark, every night for two years. If you are in the right part of the UK you can see Kerry in "Miss Saigon" on tour in the coming months - starting in Plymouth right now.

So, I ramble. But there ya go.

Love Bri

When playing along to recorded songs, especially some older songs I notice that the music is slightly off key. It is not like the guitar has been tuned down or anything, it is just not quite in key.

A couple of years back I was playing around with some chords and something I did made it sound like the Queen song "No-One But You". I decided I would try and learn the chords so I put the track on.

This was also slightly out of key making it impossible to play along to.

At the time I read a lot on the Brian May board. I decided to fire off an email to the site asking the question. To my amazement, the next morning I had a response saying Brian May himself had personally responded to my email on his site!

He mentioned a couple of reasons why this track was slightly out of tune but also mentioned that there were many reasons why a song would end up being slightly out of key. I have never known why.

Does anyone know what the reasons could be?

Sounds like the action could have been set too low - does it happen on every fret or just a few? If it is just a few the truss rod may need adjusting - either way, it should go back to the store who adjusted it for you!

What a nasty incident to have happened. You hear about the dog chasing the postman but that is really nasty.

731

(12 replies, posted in Bands)

@James - If you had to name your second favourite band - who would it be right now?

732

(4 replies, posted in Everything Else)

Never played it myself...

733

(13 replies, posted in Music Theory)

Hi Coppa

To be honest I am not really sure myself.

The verse starts with a D but the key of D does not naturally have a Am so not sure whether this is specifically a mode or maybe just a borrowed chord.

B minor is the relative minor of D major so I would suggest this could well be perceived as changing the mode to Aeolian or minor for the chorus.

Hopefully someone with a bit more theory knowledge can help you out further on this one!

734

(15 replies, posted in Newbie Section)

mikeyBoab wrote:

And don't be sorry Charlie - if you are at all unsure, ASK!!!

+1 to that - we are all happy to help.

You will find a lot of songs, especially heavier rock songs are tuned down half a step. That just means each note is turned one fret lower. It makes no odds whether you bother to tune down or not unless

a)it suits your singing voice if you are singing or
b)if you intend to play along to the track itself using that tab.

735

(7 replies, posted in Misc)

mikeyBoab wrote:

(exam this Sunday - wish me luck!)

Good luck!! default/big_smile

I am not a sportsman at all. I watch no sport whatsoever and I play none. I have previously been known to attempt tennis and badminton but haven't for years.

I cycle home from the pub sometimes - does that count as a sport? default/lol

736

(12 replies, posted in Bands)

jamesd74 wrote:

Its always AC/DC. Then maybe when I am board I change the Album TO another one by AC/DC.

What is your favourite AC/DC song at the moment James? Do you really not listen to anything else?  default/neutral

mikeyBoab wrote:

I've recently rediscovered KISS and Tracy Chapman. An interesting mix, granted, but both quality!

I only know one or two by KISS but I quite enjoy them. I love Tracy Chapman - great voice and great songwriting. It took me ages to be able to play this lovely little riff and sing (if you can call it that) at the same time:

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Hi Blake - welcome to the forum!

738

(16 replies, posted in Introduce yourself)

Hey Wurzel! Welcome to the forum!

The issue I find with the guitar is when you first start off you see progress everyday as the progress is so significant. Then when you have mastered the basics progress seems non existent.

I can pretty much guarantee that if you recorded yourself two years ago and listened now you would think you were crap back then and much better now! I am sure you are improving daily though the improvements are more subtle!

What music you into and what sort of thing are you working on at the moment with your guitaring?

If I recall correctly it really does get on your nerves!

740

(12 replies, posted in Bands)

When listening to music I tend to go through phases and generally listen to one band constantly for any given period of time before changing to something else.

At the moment I have been listening almost constantly to Thunder and have been doing so for the last couple of months since discovering their music.

So do you listen to a general variety of music and what music is it that you are mainly into at the moment?

741

(1 replies, posted in Announcements)

This is going to be a slightly different competition this time. It will run until 15th November 2010 and the prize is £50 paid via Paypal in a currency of your choice.

To qualify to be entered in the competition all you have to do is start 8 new topics. The topics will only count when there at least 8 responses.

So let's get this forum moving and get some new topics opened.

The draw will be carried out in the usual way on or just after the closing date!

Good luck and thanks a lot for your continued support!

742

(1 replies, posted in Recording / Studio)

Whatever you decide make sure you upload the recording so we can hear!

743

(10 replies, posted in Announcements)

Ok thanks

And the winner is















































It is you Redno5 - so what a good pick for you! Congratulations and please pm me your paypal details and chosen currency!

More to come soon...

Yes that would be my preference too. I think it looks great on a LP - however I am a long way off being in the market for one though unfortunately!

Would you ever try and do it again now Alun?

746

(20 replies, posted in Albums)

alun wrote:

I'm rapidly starting to think I may be the oldest person on here

I think you might be right!  default/big_smile  but that gives you many more years experience.

I know this is probably going to sound crazy but I do not think I have heard any of the albums listed in your posts. I might know one or two tracks from Pink Floyd but that is it!

Might have to check them out!

I'd like my Les Paul to be sunburst I think!

748

(10 replies, posted in Announcements)

Ok guys competition results time.

This time we had 7 people that qualify for the draw so thanks a lot for the continued support from everyone. It is really appreciated.

So here is the deal. I have selected the 7 names that have qualified, I have them written down on a piece of paper in front of me.  Against each name I allocated a random number.

So the next person to post a number between 1 - 7 will define the winner.

Can Mikey maintain his luck three times in a row or will someone else scoop the £50?

Next poster will decide - good luck everyone!

749

(3 replies, posted in Newbie Section)

Power chords should be the easiest chords to play.

It is far easier to use only your 1st and 3rd finger (index finger and ring finger) to play the notes. Your 3rd finger "barres" over the A and D string.

You do only strum these three strings. if you rest either your 1st or 3rd finger on the remaining three strings it will mute them. This allows you to actually strum all 6 strings but only the three you want will ring out - try it, it takes a bit of getting used to but muting is a skill you will use over and over in your guitar playing career!

As for chord names, they are named in the same way as I mentioned before. You can play a powerchord in other places that just on the 4th string - exactly the same fingering but starting on the 5th string is widely used.

So use the diagram that Polyal posted, if you are on the 6th string then it starts at E and if you on the 5th string it starts at A,

If you wanted a B powerchord you can either play at 7th fret on the 6th string or 2nd fret on the 5th string!

Hope this makes sense, feel free to ask anything further.

Hi Alun - welcome to you as well.